So we have learned a little about Kilcrohane
Parish and a little about Sneem – let’s move on now to Loughane and our
relatives. As we saw in the letter from Mr. Stokely, Loughane is not itself a
townland. It is part of the Lower Glenlough townland. I believe Upper Glenlough
is above the main road, and lower Glenlough is below the main road.
There are no census records for the early 1800s.
I know Ma’s grandfather is Michael Moriarty from Loughane and her grandmother
is Abigail/Gubby/Deborah Sweeney from Coad in Castlecove – I learned this from
Ma and her half brother, Uncle Mike.
Since my grandmother’s parents lived in
Loughane, I started by looking for Moriartys in Glenlough. But as we saw, there
are no Moriartys listed in either Upper or Lower Glenlough/Glanlough in
Griffith’s Valuation, which was conducted in Sneem about 1852. This is the end
of the Great Hunger – commonly known as the Irish Famine - which was a time of
emigration for many and, for many of those left behind, death by starvation or
disease. I remember old Paddy Dennehy of Ardmore crying as he told me of
hearing that people in the Sneem area died on the roadside with grass in their
mouths – they were so desperate for something to eat. He said others, including
whole families, died alone on the mountains.
One problem in the days before the Great Hunger
was the practice of tenants renting land from middlemen – some of whom charged unfair, exorbitant rents without the landlords’ knowledge. Other problems were the
large families in those days and little or no employment. For these reasons a father would
give a section of his rented plot of land to his sons or to his sons-in-law.
More and more people were depending on smaller and smaller plots of land for
their livelihood. Potatoes were nutritious and easily grown except for the years
when the blight struck and caused famine. This happened periodically but never
like during the Great Hunger. Tenants normally would live off their potatoes
from harvest to harvest – although food would be scarce when the old crop of
potatoes was coming to an end and the new potatoes were not yet ready for
harvesting - these were called the 'hungry days". No matter what the conditions, the tenants would sell their grain or animals to pay their rent. They would never think to eat their crops or butcher their pig in times of want - they had to pay their rent or the family faced ruin.
As
the population increased, the tenants moved further up the mountains as land
ran out. They would have to clear the rough land of stones and rocks, level it,
bring seaweed and sand from the shore for fertilizer – make a field and then
build up the lazy beds - hard work especially up on the side of a mountain. And
then, of course, the landlord or his agent would raise the rent because the land had been improved and
was worth more money! And if the tenant couldn't pay his increased rent, he was out and someone who could pay was in.
I remember seeing old ridges/lazy beds where
potatoes were grown along mountainsides as I drove throughout Kerry. Every day
I would see the ones in Gortdromagh when I looked west of the old house toward
our mountain. I wondered who planted them – how long ago did they plant them – what
happened to those people? Did they emigrate, did they remain in Gortdromagh,
did they survive? Now the earth is reclaiming those ridges as farmers are paid
to let farms return to nature – go wild. Who will remember those lazy beds? Who
will ever think of those families?
After the “Famine,” many landlords were deep in
debt from years of mortgaging their property to maintain their lifestyles. Tenants were not able to pay their rent during the years of "famine." So many landlords and big farmers decided to consolidate their
holdings for grazing cattle, which was more profitable. As a result they needed
fewer farm laborers. Another complication was the result of Griffith's Valuation which became the basis for the local tax system in Ireland. Those occupying the land were responsible to pay a yearly tax except for those holding land valued at less than 5 pounds. In this case the landowner was responsible for the tax. Can't you just see the landlords rushing to clear their lands of these small holdings?! This led to evictions, emigration, and hardship for the
Irish who remained on the land. Because of this, families had to move
around to find work and a place to live.
So we saw that there are no Moriartys listed in
Glenlough in Griffith’s Valuation. Our Glenlough/Loughane
Moriartys had Moriarty relatives in Castlecove and Cahirdaniel according to Uncle
Mike so I am thinking this is where they may have originated. Plus Mary Sweeney
was from Coad in Castlecove. There are still Sweeneys living in Coad today –
Johnny Murphy and I bought 2 cars from John Sweeney when we lived in
Gortdromagh. Larry and Hannah “John L” said I was related to this John Sweeney and his father, Paddy Sweeney.
So let’s look west to Castlecove and Cahirdaniel.
These
old postcards give an idea of the rough rocky mountainous countryside from
Sneem back to Waterville.
Postcard of Cahirdaniel |
The copy of Griffith’s Valuation of Coad below is
from the
www.askaboutireland.com
website. Originally, back in the 1980s before computers were so popular and
when there was nothing online, the Boston Public Library in Copley Square had
Griffith’s Valuation on microfilm, and I was able to print it. That printed
copy was so much more difficult to read than this one. I used to have to pour over it with a magnifying glass and still sometimes couldn't read it!!
On http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch, when you look up a family or even a townland, you can also see the original Valuation map.
I was totally surprised to see a Moriarty in
Coad as well as several Sweeneys.
Edward Bourchier Hartopp, Esquire is the local landlord. He was mentioned in Samuel Lewis’ 1837 description of Kilcrohane Parish as contributing to the upkeep of the Catholic school built by Count O’Connell in Derrynane. He was a Minister of Parliament for North Leicestershire in England. He was one
of the principal landowners in Kerry – owning over 24,000 acres in the 1870s.
He also owned land in Limerick and Cork.
Again, the valuation is difficult to read so I just want to point out a few things.
In the 1850s Hartopp was leasing 207 acres
of land to a group of tenants in Coad as shown below. This was a commonage – a common pasture
where these tenants all may have grazed sheep or cattle – it was the upper
portion of Coad mountain. John and Patrick Sweeney are each paying 9 shillings
for their share. And Daniel Moriarty is paying 2 shillings for his share.
In plot 2 is John Sweeney renting another 19+
acres of land plus a house and farm buildings. The land is worth 5 pounds 10
shillings while the buildings are worth 15 shillings – grand total of 6 pounds
5 shillings.
In plot 3 Patrick Sweeney is also renting
more land - about 15 acres for 4 pounds 10 shillings – along with a house and
farm buildings for 12 shillings – total is 5 pounds 2 shillings.
Plot 13 has 5 people renting 56 acres of land.
Daniel Moriarty is 13a – this could be a rundale where several people hold the land
in common but pay rent only on how much of that land they farm. Or it could mean
that a
is the farmer and the others - b, c, d, e - are cottiers or laborers working on
the farmer’s land. Either way Daniel is paying 4 pounds 4 shillings for his
share of the land and 10 shillings for his house.
I guess Eugene O'Sullivan in lot 14 is the big farmer - he is renting 152 acres of land for just over 26 pounds yearly! And his house and farm buildings are worth another 14 pounds and 15 shillings! Wow! Must be a big house or impressive buildings! And I guess James Sullivan, who is renting just a house for 7 shillings from Eugene, is a laborer or farm worker. There are 2 vacant houses on his property. Then he is renting out land
and buildings in the next few lots – including the Watch House for the Board of
Customs for 7 shillings! Are these the excise men looking for smugglers and
moonshiners?
Plot 17 has another Patrick Sweeney listed as 17b
renting a house from Eugene O'Sullivan for 1 pound 4 shillings and land for 4 shillings. Again there
are 7 tenants on 1 and a quarter acres – a is listed as a watch tower. The map
shows a coast guard station. But who is this second Patrick Sweeney?
I recently (April 2013) came across the Ordnance Survey Name and Letters Book which was
published between 1824 and 1842. It is on the Ask Ireland website. It was part of the initial mapping of Ireland. It describes Coad as:
“Situated
on the S. side of Kilcrohane Ph (Parish.) Bounded on the N. by Ballycarnahan;
on the E. by Behihaan; on the S. by Kenmare Bay; on W. by Ballycarnahan and
Raan. In the barony of Dunkerron, Co. of Kerry.
“Proprietor Edward Boucher Hartropp, Esqr.,
Meltownmobray, Leicestershire. Agent Eugene O’Sullivan, Esqr., West Cove house,
Tld (Townland) of Coad. All held by tenants. A small part by lease. Rent 363
pounds 7 s. (shillings) 11d. (pence) per annum. Farms from 10 to 60 acres. Co.
Cess 30 pounds half yearly. Soil rocky and wet. Crops of oats and potatoes
poor. There is a dispensary in Coad.”
So this gives us a little more information. That
big farmer that we saw in Coad is actually the agent for the landlord. I wonder if Edward Hartopp,
who was born in England and inherited this property, was ever in Coad? Or Ireland?
According to the Landed Estates Database, Mr. O’Sullivan was
leasing West Cove House from Mr. Hartopp at the time of Griffith's Valuation.
West Cove House today rents for 3600 euro/week
in the high season. That’s a whole lot more than the 14 pounds 15 shillings that Eugene O’Sullivan
was paying in the 1850s!!
(To see an idea of what the house might have looked like in
the 1850s, go to:
http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=434899
and then to see it after recent
renovations, go to:
We learn that only a small part of the
land in Coad was rented by lease – that was to Eugene O’Sullivan - Samuel Lewis actually mentioned him being in West Cove in 1837. This means that the other tenants
were at will – they could be evicted at any time, for any reason – if someone
offered more rent for the piece of ground, the tenant could be put out on the
road. And the land was rocky as we could see in the old postcards. But it was
also wet – boggy. Both are poor growing conditions – even the potato crop was
poor. So imagine how desperate it must have been during the “famine.”
So we found the Sweeneys in Coad. From the old map, I can see that the present day John Sweeney has his garage on the old lot 3 (Patrick Sweeney) which borders lot 2 (John Sweeney.) So I would surmise, but cannot prove yet, that Gubby Sweeney came from one or the other of these two Sweeneys. But we still don’t know who the other Patrick Sweeney is in lot 17.
We also now know that there is a Moriarty in Coad – but there are Moriartys in other Kilcrohane townlands. Does this mean anything?
I was stuck here until I found www.irishgenealogy.com which is a new
website hosted by the Irish Department of Arts, Sports, and Tourism – it
recently (the end of 2009) put old baptismal and marriage records online and
made them available for free. And what did I find?
I found an entry for the townland of Coad in
Cahirdaniel for Michael Moriarty of Coad marrying Gobnet Sweeney – no location
was given for her. They married 27 November 1850 in Cahirdaniel. The marriage
is recorded in Cahirdaniel Roman Catholic Book 1 Entry 8. Reverend Patrick
O’Connell was the priest and James Murphy was the only witness listed. Below is a screen shot from the website.
I had known that Mary/Gubby Sweeney was from Coad. And I thought the Moriartys might have
come from Castlecove or Cahirdaniel, but I never thought that they might have
come from the same townland as the Sweeneys! Could this be our Michael and
Gubby? The names are the same, and the date is right. Unfortunately, only a transcription
of the record is available online – we can’t see the original record ... yet.
Cahirdaniel Church February 2010 where Michael
Moriarty and Gobnet Sweeney were married in 1850 – almost 160 years before!
Cahirdaniel Church interior in February 2010
– I wonder how much it has changed since 1850?
Reverend O’Connell married Michael Moriarty and Gobnet Sweeney – he was parish priest of Cahirdaniel during the Great Famine. Imagine the terrible sights he saw. He was 104 years old when he died. Michael and Gubby married just as the famine was ending.
There is also another Cahirdaniel entry on this
website which I find quite interesting – Mary Moriarty of Reen is baptized on 15
February 1852 by Reverend Dominic Walsh.
Listen to this - the parents are listed as Michael Moriarty and Gobnet Sweeney! The witnesses are Michael Moriarty and Mary Moriarty. This is listed in Cahirdaniel Book 2 Entry 7 Record Identifier KY-RC-BA-111796. Coad is near the Blackshop while Reen is a couple of miles west just before you get into Cahirdaniel.
Listen to this - the parents are listed as Michael Moriarty and Gobnet Sweeney! The witnesses are Michael Moriarty and Mary Moriarty. This is listed in Cahirdaniel Book 2 Entry 7 Record Identifier KY-RC-BA-111796. Coad is near the Blackshop while Reen is a couple of miles west just before you get into Cahirdaniel.
Who were these sponsors? Mary could certainly be
Michael’s sister or even his mother. But the other sponsor, Miles Moriarty? Could he have been the father or cousin of our Michael?
And my cousin Hannah told me that Myles
Moriarty, my grandmother’s father, had a sister Mary. Could this baby be Myles
Moriarty’s sister?
What a lot of questions, and we are just
starting out!
From the book Bordoinin - in reference to Hartopp the Landlord, "he was a kind, good landlord. If a cow died on anyone he would replace the cow. He was best landlord in all of Ireland".
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing :)
ReplyDeleteI've enjoyed reading your blog.
I have 2 on the go myself in relation to family branches in Kilcrohane Parish. They are - "The Murphy's of Darrynane Beg" and "The O'Leary's of Kilcrohane Parish, Co Kerry".
Best wishes
Thanks for your comments. I didn't know anything re Mr. Hartopp. It actually makes me feel better to know he was a good landlord.
DeleteI'm going to check out your blogs. My husband is Murphy from Gortdromagh in Sneem - that Murphy was originally from Cork.
I have Leary relatives from Bohocogram in Sneem - original Leary was a blacksmith from Cork who arried a Breen from Bohocogram. There were also relatives in Castlecove - Molly had a shop there across from the Blackshop.
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I have really enjoyed reading about your Moriarty genealogy research. My Moriarty ancestors lived somewhere near castlemaine co kerry ireland. Kathleen (Moriarty)Davison. I live in California
DeleteSo sorry, Kathleen, I just saw your comment. We have often been to Castleisland.
DeleteAre you researching your family?
I am here in Cape Cod but grew up outside of Boston.
Cheers!
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Hi there. The house you show as Westcove House before renovations, is actually not Westcove House. It is a building that was probably once used as an Inn, or a residence and shop. It sales listing is misleading, as it is just a house near Westcove.
ReplyDeleteAfter Eugene Sullivan, the house was acquired by the Butlers of Waterville, and was left to Belinda Beatty Butler and her husband the Reverend Spottswood Green. They are both buried in the front yard of the Church of Ireland Church in Sneem. After Belinda's death, the house was owned by her daughter. Upon her death the property was bought and renovated by an Austrian Psychiatrist, before it was purchased by the current owners, who use it as their holiday residence, and also make it available for holiday rental. Cheers, Kevin Dyke - Australia. ( Descendant of the Waterville Butlers )
Hi Kevin, I appreciate the clarification. I know of th Butlers from Waterville - have often been into the Butler Arms. Thanks for the history! MEM
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